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Det har vel blitt skrevet om nylig i tråden: Det som trolig blir gjort er at republikenerene går med på å godkjenne det som passer de, og så saboterer og nekter å godkjenne støtte til i alle fall Ukraina. I tillegg til de tre pakkene er det vel også lagt frem en fjerde pakke med støtte til sikring av grensene. Det opprinnelige forslagt til Biden inneholdt vel alle fire pakkene i en allt-i-en-pakke. Oppsplittingen fra republikenerene er nok med høy sansynlighet ene og alene til for å sabotere med filibustere og annet skittent spill ja!

Samstundes burde det bli enklare å samle alle demokratane bak ein støttepakke som ikkje inkluderer folkemord på Gaza. Då skal det heller ikkje mange republikanske stemmer til før pakken har fleirtal.

Ein kan jo også håpe på at republikanarane med si oppsplitting av pakken føler at dei har fått sett sitt preg på den/dei, og at dei dermed er fornøgde og at nok er nok.

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4 hours ago, torbjornen said:

Raud ungdom:

https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/martinussen-om-rod-ungdom-drama_-_-sosialisme-skal-vaere-demokratisk-1.16848416

Det er litt utruleg at ein ikkje vil støtte Ukraina som blir utsett for russisk terror og ein imperialistisk krig, samstundes som ein vil støtte terrororganisasjonen HAMAS.



Et fullstendig urealistisk verdenssyn er vel nærmest et krav for å stemme på et parti som Rødt i utgangspunktet, så det overrasker ikke.

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Da er det vel ting som tyder på at Johnson kanskje har blitt nødt til å gi seg, og at han nå SELV forsøker å vri narrativet over på det kritikerne hans hele tiden har pekt på - som er at støtte til Ukraina er i realiteten også hovedsakelig støtte til amerikanske arbeidsplasser og våpenlagre.

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Skadevurdering av angrepet på Dzhankoi flybase lar vente på seg, men det skal ha vært stasjonert minst to stykk Ka-52 og åtte Mi-8. Rundt en tredel av flybasen, området de stod oppstilt på, skal ha blitt pepret ganske godt av klasevåpen. Det er sansynelig at flere av disse helikoptrene er ødelagt og at de fleste antagelig er truffet og i det minste skadet. I tillegg er det på det rene, bekreftet av bilder, at det gikk med mesteparten av et S-400 og antagelig også delvis et S-300.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/17/russia-foreign-policy-us-weaken/

Secret Russian foreign policy document urges action to weaken the U.S.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry has been drawing up plans to try to weaken its Western adversaries, including the United States, and leverage the Ukraine war to forge a global order free from what it sees as American dominance, according to a secret Foreign Ministry document.

In a classified addendum to Russia’s official — and public — “Foreign Policy Concept of the Russian Federation,” the ministry calls for an “offensive information campaign” and other measures spanning “the military-political, economic and trade and informational psychological spheres” against a “coalition of unfriendly countries” led by the United States.

“We need to continue adjusting our approach to relations with unfriendly states,” states the 2023 document, which was provided to The Washington Post by a European intelligence service. “It’s important to create a mechanism for finding the vulnerable points of their external and internal policies with the aim of developing practical steps to weaken Russia’s opponents.”

The document for the first time provides official confirmation and codification of what many in the Moscow elite say has become a hybrid war against the West. Russia is seeking to subvert Western support for Ukraine and disrupt the domestic politics of the United States and European countries, through propaganda campaigns supporting isolationist and extremist policies, according to Kremlin documents previously reported on by The Post. It is also seeking to refashion geopolitics, drawing closer to China, Iran and North Korea in an attempt to shift the current balance of power.

Using much tougher and blunter language than the public foreign policy document, the secret addendum, dated April 11, 2023, claims that the United States is leading a coalition of “unfriendly countries” aimed at weakening Russia because Moscow is “a threat to Western global hegemony.” The document says the outcome of Russia’s war in Ukraine will “to a great degree determine the outlines of the future world order,” a clear indication that Moscow sees the result of its invasion as inextricably bound with its ability — and that of other authoritarian nations — to impose its will globally.

The Foreign Policy Concept of the Russian Federation, which was published March 31, 2023, and approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin, deploys bland diplomatic language to call for “the democratization of international relations,” “sovereign equality” and the strengthening of Russia’s position on the global stage. Though the Foreign Policy Concept also charges that the United States and “its satellites” have used the Ukraine conflict to escalate “a many-years-long anti-Russia policy,” it also states that “Russia does not consider itself an enemy of the West … and has no ill intentions toward it.”

Russia hopes the West will “realize the lack of any future in its confrontational policy and hegemonistic ambitions, and will accept the complicated realities of the multipolar world,” the public document states.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement that it did not comment “on the existence or nonexistence of internal ministry documents” and on the progress of work on them. “As we have stated several times on different levels, we can confirm the mood is to decisively combat the aggressive steps taken by the collective West as part of the hybrid war launched against Russia,” the ministry added.

Russia’s recent veto against extending U.N. monitoring of sanctions against North Korea over its nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles program, effectively ending 14 years of cooperation, was “a clear sign” that the work contemplated in the classified addendum is already underway, said a leading Russian academic with close ties to senior Russian diplomats. The academic spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive deliberations in Moscow.
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“Russia can create difficulties for the U.S. in many different regions of the world,” the academic said. “This is about the Middle East, northeast Asia, the African continent and even Latin America.”

The creation of the Foreign Policy Concept and the classified addendum followed a call to Russian academics for policy suggestions. One proposal submitted in February 2023 to the Foreign Ministry by the deputy head of Moscow’s Institute for the Commonwealth of Independent States, which maintains close ties to Russia’s security apparatus, laid out Russia’s options more bluntly still.

The academic, Vladimir Zharikhin, called for Russia to “continue to facilitate the coming to power of isolationist right-wing forces in America,” “enable the destabilization of Latin American countries and the rise to power of extremist forces on the far left and far right there,” as well as facilitate “the restoration of European countries’ sovereignty by supporting parties dissatisfied with economic pressure from the U.S.”

Other points in the policy proposal, which was also provided to The Post, suggested that Moscow stoke conflict between the United States and China over Taiwan to bring Russia and China closer together, as well as “to escalate the situation in the Middle East around Israel, Iran and Syria to distract the U.S. with the problems of this region.”

Zharikhin declined to discuss his proposal.

Western officials have warned that Russia has been escalating its propaganda and influence campaigns over the past two years as it seeks to undermine support for Ukraine. As part of that, it has sought to create a new global divide, with Russian propaganda efforts against the West resonating in many countries in the Middle East, Africa, Latin America and Asia.

“I think the U.S. was convinced that the rest of the world — North and South — would support the U.S. in the conflict with Russia and it turned out that this was not true,” Zharikhin told The Post in an earlier interview. “This demonstrates the single polar world is over, and the U.S. doesn’t want to come to terms with this.”
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For Mikhail Khodorkovsky — the longtime Putin critic who was once Russia’s richest man until a clash with the Kremlin landed him 10 years in prison — it is not surprising that Russia is seeking to do everything it can to undermine the United States. “For Putin, it is absolutely natural that he should try to create the maximum number of problems for the U.S.,” he said. “The task is to take the U.S. out of the game, and then destroy NATO. This doesn’t mean dissolving it, but to create the feeling among people that NATO isn’t defending them.”

The long congressional standoff on providing more weapons to Ukraine was only making it easier for Russia to challenge Washington’s global power, he said.

“The Americans consider that insofar as they are not directly participating in the war [in Ukraine], then any loss is not their loss,” Khodorkovsky said. “This is an absolute misunderstanding.”

A defeat for Ukraine, he said, “means that many will stop fearing challenging the U.S.” and the costs for the United States will only increase.

 

 

Dokumentet virker i min oppfatning lekket med vilje, og inneholder både gulrot og pisk, med både trusler og forsonende språkbruk. Antagelig ment å nå oss nå som MAGA har holdt kongressen som gisler.

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https://kyivindependent.com/inside-the-swedish-ammunition-plant-at-the-forefront-of-europes-push-to-ramp-up-shell-production/

Inside the Swedish ammunition plant at the forefront of Europe’s push to ramp up shell production

"This facility is a large-caliber ammunition foundry belonging to Norwegian-Finnish defense company Nammo, one of Europe’s foremost manufacturers of NATO-standard shells."

“We are in the middle of a transition (to focus on 155mm shells),” said Martin Stang, the site manager and vice-president for Nammo’s large-caliber operations in Sweden, on an exclusive tour for the Kyiv Independent.

“It's a fairly quick switch,” he said, adding that the transition was driven by the initiative of European governments.

Without giving concrete figures for monthly production targets, Nammo claims it will triple production in two years starting from 2024, with the help of funding from Nordic governments and EU funds."

"The two parts of the shell, the steel body and explosive filling, are produced in different Nammo facilities, spread across Norway, Finland, and Poland. "


Anbefaler å titte på lenken. Lang artikkel med mange bilder.

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Just now, torbjornen said:

Eg antar at 99% viser til angrepet på Israel?



Jepp. De skjøt ned 99% og ingenting av militær verdi ble truffet. Dessverre ble flere sivile, bla. barn, skadet av raketter og ting på avveie. Ikke bare i Israel men angivelig også i Jordan. Mens russerne hevdet 100% ble skutt ned. I realiteten ser det ut til at S-400 er svært dårlig.

Hva treffprosenten til S-400 er, er ikke godt å si. Hvis den skulle være 90% (og det tviler jeg sterkt på) så er den fremdeles 10 ganger dårligere enn vestlig antiluftskyts. Vestlig antiluftskyts er tilnærmet 100% mot droner og krysserraketter, men dårliger emot hypersoniske. Hypersoniske raketter er det dog svært få av. S-400 skulle i teorien være bedre enn Patriot, men i praksis ser vi at Patriot er uendelig mye bedre. Som vanlig overdriver russere, kinesere osv. den militære verdien av det de har, mens vestlige styrker, kloke av skade, har en tendens til å undervurdere seg selv. Man skal tross alt ikke undervurdere sine fiender. I en reell konvensjonell krig tror jeg Russland hadde blitt gruset av NATO i løpet av noen dager mens Kinas luftstyrker og marine ville blitt gruset i Sørkinahavet i løpet av noen uker.

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General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

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On April 17, 71x tactical engagements were reported.

The enemy launched a total of 4x missile and 43x air strikes, 43x MLRS attacks on the positions of Ukrainian troops and various settlements. Unfortunately, the russian terrorist attacks have killed and wounded civilians. Residential apartment blocks and private houses as well as other infrastructure were destroyed or damaged.

In the morning, the enemy launched a missile attack at the city of Chernihiv. Preliminarily, the attack killed 17x people, wounded more than 60x, including 2x children. 3x people were rescued from under the debris. The search and rescue operation is ongoing.

On April 17, the Ukrainian Air Force launched air strikes on 8x concentrations of the russian invaders’ troops.

 

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910 russiske frontkjempere forlot fronten igår, sammen med noen panser, artilleri og kjøretøy. Det er fortsatt ikke kommet noen oppdaterte tall på russiske tap av fly og helikopter. Så vi får vel slå oss til ro med at de kun rapporterer tilfeller de har fått god dokumentasjon på?

 

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  • UA angriper militær flyplass på Krim
  • Flere russiske luftvern ble tatt ut oppmot 5 luftvern
  • Var det ATACMS som ble brukt?
  • Minus 1 russisk mi 8 helikopter
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https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-may-have-just-crossed-putins-nuclear-red-line-1891250

Ukraine May Have Just Crossed Putin's Nuclear Red Line

Drone attacks on a Russian radar site may have crossed one of Moscow's red lines for potential nuclear weapon use—the "disruption of the response actions of nuclear forces," per the wording of a Kremlin decree signed by President Vladimir Putin in 2020.

Ukrainian drones reportedly targeted the 590th separate radio engineering center of military unit 84680 in the city of Kovilkino on Wednesday morning and on April 11. Kovilkino is in the Mordovia Republic, some 360 miles from the Ukrainian border.

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https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/children-as-young-as-14-to-work-at-military-1713308179.html

Children as young as 14 to work at military factories in Tatarstan, Russia

The government of Tatarstan, Russia, has prepared a new youth employment support program aimed at facilitating the employment of minors aged 14-18, including in enterprises of the defense industry complex, according to the Russian edition Kommersant.

 

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