Krigen mellom Israel og Hamas

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Felles erklæring om Gaza, 22 vestlige land:

Joint statement on the humanitarian situation in Gaza

Nyhet | Dato: 12.08.2025

The humanitarian suffering in Gaza has reached unimaginable levels. Famine is unfolding before our eyes. Urgent action is needed now to halt and reverse starvation. Humanitarian space must be protected, and aid should never be politicised.

Joint statement on behalf of 27 partners on aid to Gaza and restrictions facing NGOs.

However, due to restrictive new registration requirements, essential international NGOs may be forced to leave the OPTs imminently which would worsen the humanitarian situation still further. We call on the government of Israel to provide authorisation for all international NGO aid shipments and to unblock essential humanitarian actors from operating. Immediate, permanent and concrete steps must be taken to facilitate safe, large-scale access for the UN, international NGOs and humanitarian partners. All crossings and routes must be used to allow a flood of aid into Gaza, including food, nutrition supplies, shelter, fuel, clean water, medicine and medical equipment. Lethal force must not be used at distribution sites, and civilians, humanitarians and medical workers must be protected. 

We are grateful to the US, Qatar and Egypt for their efforts in pushing for a ceasefire and pursuing peace. We need a ceasefire that can end the war, for hostages to be released and aid to enter Gaza by land unhindered.

This statement has been signed by:

The Foreign Ministers of Australia, Belgium, Canada, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Japan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK.

The EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy and Vice-President of the European Commission, the EU Commissioner for Equality, Preparedness and Crisis Management and the EU Commissioner for the Mediterranean.

 

https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/joint-statement-on-the-humanitarian-situation-in-gaza/id3115738/

[Tussi]

Snikpellik skrev (3 timer siden):

Israelske jagerflypiloter planlegger en demonstrasjon i protest mot Netanyahus utvidelse av krigen og til støtte for IDFs stabssjef som er mot full okkupasjon av Gaza, skriver israelske medier.

'War must be stopped': Israeli fighter pilots to protest outside IDF's HQ, call for Gaza deal
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-863982

Pilots in active reserve service and former pilots from the Israel Air Force are expected to hold a quiet demonstration on Tuesday outside the Kirya (military headquarters) in protest of the government's decision to approve the plan to expand the fighting in Gaza despite the opposition of IDF Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir, who warned that the plan would endanger the lives of the hostages.

The demonstration is expected to take place near the base's "Shaul" gate, near Hostage Square in the Tel Aviv Museum plaza. "The demonstration started from a very small initiative by a few former pilots and quickly gained momentum," a former veteran pilot who plans to participate in the protest told Walla.

(...) "This is a demonstration of support for the chief of staff. Our message is simple. That he should stand by his principles in the spirit of the IDF against the government and not give in to political pressure. That he should not just go to war in Gaza. That soldiers should not just be killed. The war has exhausted itself. The demonstration will be very specific and will focus on the tension between the chief of staff and the government."

Jeg har tiltro til en del i IDF,.at de vil det som er det beste i denne situasjonen. Drittøft å stå opp mot Netanyahu på dette. Hadde nesten vært best med et militærkupp idag

[Rhabagatz]

On 8/8/2025 at 8:14 AM, Tussi said:

Vet ikke om du leser det som er vedtatt, men målet var å ta kontroll over hele Gaza og deretter overlate området til arabiske styrker. Det er kanskje det som må til nå 

Det som har unngått debatt og fokus er det som mangler i Netanyahus plan (i tillegg til mat, vann og medisiner): At eksisterende palestinske myndigheter overtar styringen av Gaza.

Men det er noe N vil unngå for enhver pris, fordi det bringer tostatløsningen nærmere.

Endret onsdag kl 04:45 av Rhabagatz

[UglaSukk]

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday that he considers himself to be on a “historic and spiritual mission” and that he is “very” connected to the idea of “Greater Israel,” a vision for significant Israeli territorial expansion in the region."

https://news.antiwar.com/2025/08/12/netanyahu-says-hes-very-much-attached-to-the-vision-of-greater-israel/

 

[Ballalaika]

Hamas kler seg ut, inkl å merke biler med emblemer, som humanitære organisasjoner.

 

[Snikpellik]

En lengre og informativ artikkel om israelske private hjelpeorganisasjoner som hjelper sivile på Gazastripen i samarbeid med internasjonale organisasjoner og FN, til tross for motstanden mot dette fra de israleske myndighetene og COGAT. De har så langt fått inn over 30 utenlandske leger, som bidrar til å utføre operasjoner og redde liv.

Lederen for organisasjonen IsraAID beskriver en desperat og katastrofal situasjon for de sivile i Gaza. De får donasjoner fra jødiske organisasjoner og synagoger i utlandet.

As humanitarian crisis deepens, Israeli aid groups gingerly open up about work in Gaza
https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-humanitarian-crisis-deepens-israeli-aid-groups-gingerly-open-up-about-work-in-gaza/

With disaster at its doorstep, IsraAID and SmartAID are providing water, healthcare and more to the Strip, acting as a bridge for both UN-backed NGOs and US Jews unable to stand by.

(...) Steering clear of any scintilla of politics or international diplomacy had been key to the group’s work, allowing it to keep its head down and focus solely on the humanitarian mission. “In some ways [it made] our work easier,” he said.

But conditions in the Strip have reached the point where Polizer can no longer keep quiet.

“The reason I’m going public with our work in Gaza is that the humanitarian situation there is extremely severe, and the only way to address it is to work together with Israel and allow organizations like ours — that understand both humanitarian and security needs — to take the lead,” he said.

Endret onsdag kl 08:17 av Snikpellik

[Snikpellik]

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Israel er i samtaler om å "flytte" innbyggere fra Gazastripen til Sør-Sudan som del av en plan om "massemigrasjon" fra området, skriver både Associated Press og israelske medier.

Netanyahu har også bekreftet i et tv-intervju at han mener det han kaller "frivillig migrasjon" fra Gazastripen er det "riktige å gjøre".

En amerikansk privat lobbygruppe som jobber for Sør-Sudan bekrefter at Israel ønsker å sette opp leire for palestinere i landet.

Israel in talks with war-torn South Sudan about taking in Gazans
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-talks-with-war-torn-south-sudan-about-taking-in-gazans/

Israel is in discussions with South Sudan about the possibility of resettling Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to the war-torn East African country, part of a wider effort by Israel to facilitate mass emigration from the territory left in ruins during 22 months of fighting against Hamas.

Six people familiar with the matter confirmed the talks to The Associated Press. It’s unclear how far the talks have advanced, but if implemented, the plans would amount to transferring people from one war-ravaged land with famine risks to another, and raise human rights concerns.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he wants to realize US President Donald Trump’s vision of relocating much of Gaza’s population through what Netanyahu refers to as “voluntary migration.” Israel has floated similar resettlement proposals with other African nations.

“I think that the right thing to do, even according to the laws of war as I know them, is to allow the population to leave, and then you go in with all your might against the enemy who remains there,” Netanyahu said Tuesday in an interview with i24, an Israeli TV station. He did not make reference to South Sudan.

(...) Joe Szlavik, the founder of a US lobbying firm working with South Sudan, said he was briefed by South Sudanese officials on the talks. He said an Israeli delegation plans to visit the country to look into the possibility of setting up camps for Palestinians there. No known date has been set for the visit. Israel did not immediately respond to a request for confirmation of the visit.

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Samtidig er Israels viseutenriksminister nå på besøk i Sør-Sudan hvor hun har samtaler med presidenten:

Deputy FM visits South Sudan as government weighs moving Gazans there
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/deputy-fm-visits-south-sudan-as-government-weighs-moving-gazans-there/

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Mer:

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-israel-in-talks-to-resettle-gazans-in-south-sudan-ap-reports

While details of the negotiations remain unclear, the prospect of transferring displaced Palestinians from one conflict-ridden region to another raises serious humanitarian and ethical concerns. South Sudan, itself still grappling with the aftermath of a civil war and ongoing political instability, faces significant challenges including famine and poverty.

Sources reveal an Israeli delegation is expected to visit South Sudan soon to explore the establishment of temporary camps for Palestinians. Reports indicate Israel may fund the construction of such facilities.

Endret onsdag kl 08:35 av Snikpellik

[Tussi]

Snikpellik skrev (3 minutter siden):

Israel er i samtaler om å "flytte" innbyggere fra Gazastripen til Sør-Sudan som del av en plan om "massemigrasjon" fra området, skriver både Associated Press og israelske medier.

Netanyahu har også bekreftet i et tv-intervju at han mener det han kaller "frivillig migrasjon" fra Gazastripen er det "riktige å gjøre".

En amerikansk privat lobbygruppe som jobber for Sør-Sudan bekrefter at Israel ønsker å sette opp leire for palestinere i landet.

Israel in talks with war-torn South Sudan about taking in Gazans
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-talks-with-war-torn-south-sudan-about-taking-in-gazans/

Israel is in discussions with South Sudan about the possibility of resettling Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to the war-torn East African country, part of a wider effort by Israel to facilitate mass emigration from the territory left in ruins during 22 months of fighting against Hamas.

Six people familiar with the matter confirmed the talks to The Associated Press. It’s unclear how far the talks have advanced, but if implemented, the plans would amount to transferring people from one war-ravaged land with famine risks to another, and raise human rights concerns.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he wants to realize US President Donald Trump’s vision of relocating much of Gaza’s population through what Netanyahu refers to as “voluntary migration.” Israel has floated similar resettlement proposals with other African nations.

“I think that the right thing to do, even according to the laws of war as I know them, is to allow the population to leave, and then you go in with all your might against the enemy who remains there,” Netanyahu said Tuesday in an interview with i24, an Israeli TV station. He did not make reference to South Sudan.

(...) Joe Szlavik, the founder of a US lobbying firm working with South Sudan, said he was briefed by South Sudanese officials on the talks. He said an Israeli delegation plans to visit the country to look into the possibility of setting up camps for Palestinians there. No known date has been set for the visit. Israel did not immediately respond to a request for confirmation of the visit.

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Samtidig er Israels viseutenriksminister nå på besøk i Sør-Sudan hvor hun har samtaler med presidenten:

Deputy FM visits South Sudan as government weighs moving Gazans there
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/deputy-fm-visits-south-sudan-as-government-weighs-moving-gazans-there/

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[Rhabagatz]

27 minutes ago, Tussi said:

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"From the river to the sea"

[UglaSukk]

Post på X :

"When I entered Gaza the Israeli military had a rule: I was only allowed to bring in three kilos of food. As I was weighing out protein bars, trying to get under the limit, I said to my husband: ‘How sinister is this?’ I’m a humanitarian aid worker. Why would there even be a limit on food? I’ve worked in many places with extreme hunger, but what’s so jarring in this context is how cruel it is, how deliberate."

https://x.com/humansofny/status/1954996475571646976

 

 

[Mr. President™]

Dyrt å drive propaganda når man begår så mye terror og krigsforbrytelser

[ParadiseCity]

UglaSukk skrev (5 timer siden):

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday that he considers himself to be on a “historic and spiritual mission” and that he is “very” connected to the idea of “Greater Israel,” a vision for significant Israeli territorial expansion in the region."

https://news.antiwar.com/2025/08/12/netanyahu-says-hes-very-much-attached-to-the-vision-of-greater-israel/

 

Det har tørna helt for han. Eneste vi kan håpe på nå er et militærkupp der nede for å bli kvitt all den dritten. Helst permanent.

[hocanee]

Annerkjenne Palestina som stat og stoppe handel med Israel vil ikke utføre annet enn å gi en selvtillits boost til Hamas og gjøre det enda mer usannsynlig at de overgir seg og slipper fri gislene.

Dette vil forlenge krigen og øke antall sivilt liv tapt.

Endret torsdag kl 13:17 av hocanee

[Tussi]

hocanee skrev (5 minutter siden):

Annerkjenne Palestina som stat og stoppe handel med Israel vil ikke utføre annet enn å gi en selvtillits boost til Hamas og gjøre det enda mer usannsynlig at de overfor seg og slipper fri gislene.

Dette vil forlenge krigen og øke antall sivilt liv tapt.

Man bør anerkjenne Palestina, men ikke mens Hamas holder gisler, det burde kommet etter krigen er over og Hamas bekjempet,  samt etter at  PA slutter med "pay for slay"-fondet. Det bør være en grunnleggende forutsetning 

[Rhabagatz]

UEFA supercupfinalen i går.

Klar melding.

[hocanee]

Og ingen ord om gislene?

[leifeinar]

De israelske eller palestinske? 

[ParadiseCity]

Tussi skrev (4 timer siden):

Man bør anerkjenne Palestina, men ikke mens Hamas holder gisler, det burde kommet etter krigen er over og Hamas bekjempet,  samt etter at  PA slutter med "pay for slay"-fondet. Det bør være en grunnleggende forutsetning 

Det er vel en genuin frykt for at det ikke vil være igjen noe hverken folk eller land som kan kalles Palestina hvis man bare avventer til etter krigen, og lar Israel bare fortsette å massakre befolkningen. Det er derfor man anerkjenner det nå. 
 

[Rhabagatz]

55 minutes ago, hocanee said:

Og ingen ord om gislene?

Er de sivile? Er det noen barn?

Endret torsdag kl 17:45 av Rhabagatz

[Rhabagatz]

Reaksjon i Israel:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flouting-its-own-rules-uefa-displays-stop-killing-children-banner-at-key-match/

Det er altså en politisk ytring å være imot drap på barn og sivile. Jeg trodde det var universelle verdier. Noe ingen tørr å være imot. Men den gang ei. Er man imot, er man for.

Endret torsdag kl 17:51 av Rhabagatz