I følge NRK er Charlie Kirk "ytre høyre", og bruker samme retorikk som Anders Behring Breivik - enig?

[Red Frostraven]

Cyrio skrev (4 timer siden):

Trump har ikke utført hverken kupp eller landsforræderi. 

Jeg snakker om Fake Electors plottet, åpenbart.

I og med at jeg siterte det, gjentatte ganger.

Forstår du hva det var et forsøk på?

Husker du at de forsøkte å få Mike Pence kjørt bort fra the Capitol..?

The Trump fake electors plot was an attempt by U.S. president Donald Trump and associates to have him remain in power after losing the 2020 United States presidential election. After the results of the election determined Trump had lost, he, his associates, and Republican Party officials in seven battleground states – Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin[1] – devised a scheme to submit fraudulent certificates of ascertainment to falsely claim Trump had won the Electoral College vote in crucial states. The plot was one of Trump and his associates' attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election.

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On the same day that the true electors voted, at the direction of Trump campaign officials, "alternate slates" of Republican electors convened in seven states, most of which Biden had won by a relatively small margin, (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania) to sign false certificates of ascertainment.^[45] This was ostensibly in case Texas v. Pennsylvania ruled in favor of Trump. However, that case was thrown out on December 11, 2020, three days before the electoral vote was to occur, a fact that was withheld from most of the fake electors by Giuliani and Chesebro.^[46] In each case the false electors signed a facsimile of an Electoral College certificate of ascertainment, proclaiming Trump and Pence the victors, and sent it to the National Archives and to Congress.^[47]

The alternate elector certificates for Pennsylvania and New Mexico contained language indicating they would take effect only if the Trump campaign's challenges to the election results were sustained by the courts. In the other five states, the "alternate" certificates contained no indication that they were not genuine, and those states are prosecuting the alleged crime. These self-proclaimed electors have no legal standing, and the National Archives did not accept their documents, publishing the official (Biden) results from those states as the result of the election.^{[48][49][50][51]}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

De forsøkte å fjerne Mike Pence, slik at noen andre kunne sertifisere valget med de falske resultatet.

Hva ville hendt da?

Allerede ved produksjonen av disse falske resultatene var det et kuppforsøk.

Endret 8 timer siden av Red Frostraven

[Folkflesk]

Red Frostraven skrev (14 minutter siden):

Jeg snakker om Fake Electors plottet, åpenbart.

I og med at jeg siterte det, gjentatte ganger.

Forstår du hva det var et forsøk på?

Husker du at de forsøkte å få Mike Pence kjørt bort fra the Capitol..?

The Trump fake electors plot was an attempt by U.S. president Donald Trump and associates to have him remain in power after losing the 2020 United States presidential election. After the results of the election determined Trump had lost, he, his associates, and Republican Party officials in seven battleground states – Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin[1] – devised a scheme to submit fraudulent certificates of ascertainment to falsely claim Trump had won the Electoral College vote in crucial states. The plot was one of Trump and his associates' attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election.

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On the same day that the true electors voted, at the direction of Trump campaign officials, "alternate slates" of Republican electors convened in seven states, most of which Biden had won by a relatively small margin, (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania) to sign false certificates of ascertainment.^[45] 

Rettsystemet i landet har abdisert når de ikke greier å gjøre noe med dette. Trump er en kriminell kuppmaker som skulle vært i fengsel og fradømt retten til å stille i presidentvalg på livstid. Istedenfor sitter han der og undergraver systemet ytterligere.

Brasil greide å straffe fascist-vennen hans for det samme, men i USA har institusjonene nærmest kollapset under trykket fra denne sprø bevegelsen. Jeg tror man enten blir sprø selv eller kronisk depressiv av å følge med på den politiske hverdagen i denne bananrepublikken.