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bojangles skrev (44 minutter siden):

@Penny Du har naturligvis helt rett - det var nok frustrasjonen som tok meg. Frustrasjonen over at det ikke gjøres nok for å sikre at Ukraina kan få jaget ut russerne. 

Det begynner å bli tungt å sitte på sidelinja helt uten handlekraft og beslutningsmyndighet og stadig se at donasjonene av våpen og våpensystemer kommer for sent til Ukraina og i for lavt antall. Og selv om jeg donerer hver måned til Ukraina får jeg liksom ikke gjort noe mer. 

Mens de som både har beslutningsmyndighet og har mulighet til å utvise handlekraft, vel det virker som de sitter på hendene og slik har det vært i snart tre år. Det er til å få magesår av. 

 

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This transcript is from an interview discussing Ukraine's ability to win the ongoing war against Russia, contingent on receiving sufficient military aid from Western nations. Here are the key points:

  1. Ukraine's Potential Victory: The speaker believes Ukraine can win the war if it receives the necessary support, particularly in terms of weapons and missile systems. There is a push for allowing Ukraine to use long-range missiles, such as the Storm Shadow, to strike targets inside Russia, particularly missile launch sites that are attacking Ukraine.

  2. Dangerous Global Situation: The speaker compares the current geopolitical climate to the Cuban Missile Crisis, stating that this is one of the most dangerous times in recent history. They emphasize that this war affects not just Ukraine but the entire world, especially if Putin is allowed to win.

  3. Red Lines and Putin's Weakness: The speaker argues that the West should ignore Putin's "red lines" about not allowing attacks on Russian soil, stating that it is already a war initiated by Russia. They believe Putin is on shaky ground domestically and that now is the time to strike back harder.

  4. Western Hesitation: There are concerns about escalating the war if Ukrainian strikes in Russia result in significant casualties, especially using Western-supplied weapons. Some Western governments, including the US, are cautious due to the potential for escalation.

  5. Historical Parallels and Urgency: The speaker draws a parallel to appeasement policies from the 1930s, warning that if the West does not act decisively now, Putin, like other dictators, will only continue to push for more.

  6. Defense Spending and Global Implications: The speaker also touches on the UK’s defense budget, expressing concerns that defense may not be prioritized amid looming budget cuts. They argue that military preparedness is key to preventing future wars, especially given Russia’s aggressive posture towards Europe.

In conclusion, the speaker stresses the importance of continued and increased support for Ukraine, warning that failure to do so could have dire global consequences.

 

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This transcript is from a segment of Times Radio's program "Front Line," hosted by Kate Chabot, featuring an interview with Times world affairs editor, Katherine Philp. The discussion provides an update on the ongoing war in Ukraine, based on Katherine’s recent reporting trips. Below are the key points:

  1. Brutal Close-Quarters Fighting: The interview begins with a description of the fighting in Ukraine, where combat has become so close that soldiers often find themselves fighting in the same buildings as their enemies. This intense, urban warfare makes the use of heavy artillery impractical due to the risk of hitting friendly troops. Drone footage and accounts from Ukrainian commanders describe how combatants sometimes have to resort to unorthodox tactics, such as smoking out enemies hiding in basements.

  2. Recent Russian Bombardments: Recent deadly Russian aerial bombardments across Ukraine, including an attack in Lviv that killed civilians, are discussed. These attacks have had a demoralizing effect on the Ukrainian population and military, despite a recent morale boost from Ukrainian operations inside Russia, specifically in the Kursk region.

  3. Morale and the Donbas Front: While the Kursk operation initially lifted spirits in Ukraine, Katherine reports that morale has since declined due to setbacks in the Donbas region. The hoped-for diversion of Russian forces from the Donbas to Kursk did not materialize, leaving Ukraine’s forces in the Donbas under heavy pressure. The Russian advance in areas like Avdiivka has been much faster than expected.

  4. Command Issues and Tactics: Ukrainian soldiers in the Donbas expressed frustration with the decisions of their commanders, and some complained about being thrown into unfamiliar battle groups without proper coordination. Russian forces were reported to be employing suicidal wave tactics, where convicts and poorly trained units are used to tie up Ukrainian forces, allowing Russia to advance elsewhere.

  5. Mixed Opinions on the Kursk Operation: While some Ukrainian forces viewed the Kursk operation as a political and morale victory, others criticized it as poorly planned. Some Ukrainian commanders felt that resources were being wasted holding positions that were hard to defend, and one suggested that they should mine the area and withdraw rather than continue fighting there.

  6. Russian Civilians' Reactions: Katherine also reports on her interactions with Russian civilians living near the Ukrainian border in Kursk Oblast. These civilians were shocked by the war's reach but felt disconnected from it, as this area had previously been quiet. Many of them were poor or elderly, and some expressed indifference or ignorance about the conflict.

  7. War Fatigue in Ukraine: The interview touches on the growing sense of war fatigue within Ukraine, with many civilians and soldiers questioning how much longer the conflict can continue. The high number of casualties and ongoing hardships have left many Ukrainians exhausted, both physically and emotionally.

  8. Zelensky's Victory Plan: President Zelensky is due to present a "victory plan" to U.S. President Joe Biden, which will likely include requests for permission to use long-range missiles against Russian military targets within Russian territory. Katherine believes this will be a central theme in Ukraine's strategy going forward, as civilian infrastructure in Ukraine continues to be targeted by Russian forces.

  9. Economic and Social Impact: Lastly, the discussion turns to the broader effects of the war on Ukraine's economy and society. The war has caused significant demographic challenges, with many Ukrainians fleeing the country and others unable to leave due to military mobilization orders.

In conclusion, the interview sheds light on the evolving dynamics of the war in Ukraine, highlighting the challenges faced by Ukrainian forces, the devastating impact on civilians, and the broader geopolitical implications.

 

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Theo343 skrev (13 timer siden):

Her var det mye "god dag mann økseskaft" og "doh" materie. 

Vet ikke hvor mye du har fulgt med på valgkampen, men alt ligger ute på Youtube. Her ser man Harris sin metode ift. betente konflikter og krigssituasjoner. Du trodde kanskje hun sa dette om Russland? Det har faktisk veldig liten betydning da det først og fremst handler om hvordan hun tilnærmer seg disse situasjonene.

Så kan du selvsagt begynne med ordspikkeriet og frittflytende tolkninger.

Se der ja. Så du snakket usant. Her er det du som driver med ordspikkeri og frittflytende tolkninger, og påstår at ting hun sa om Gaza er ting hun sa om Ukraina.

Husk at ulike situasjoner krever ulike ting. Og både hun og Walz har konsekvent uttalt at Ukraina må få støtte, men de har ikke sagt noe om at det må forhandles nå så vidt jeg har fått med meg.

Og så sier hun "...to get the hostages out". Oops.

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For det første er det ingen som sidestiller noe som helst. For det andre må du gjerne fortelle deg selv at det jeg nevnte ikke skjer på begge sider, om det hjelper deg å sove om natten. Men det er dessverre fryktelig naivt.

Jo, du prøver å sidestille de to. Det er åpenbart.

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Sitter og leser litt om Russland og Ukrainas historie, når jeg kommer over dette gullkornet...

I år 987 bestemmer Vladimir den Store (også kalt Vladimir den første) seg for at Kyivan Rus (staten som er fellesopphavet til Russland, Ukraina og Belarus) trenger en ny og felles religion.

Kyivan Rus er på dette tidspunktet mest hedensk, men har folk med mange forskjellige religioner.

Mens andre hedenske land i Europa blir kristnet eller islamisert via. erobringer, politikk eller gjennom kulturell påvirkning, så bestemmer ruserne seg altså for å velge en. Sørover og østover har ruserne muslimer. Vestover har de kristne.

Så hvorfor velger Vladimir den Store kristendommen i stedet for islam? Fordi islam har forbudt alkohol, selvfølgelig! 😄

"Drinking is the joy of the Rus. We cannot exist without the pleasure."

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1 hour ago, bojangles said:

 

 

Russland har meg bekjent aldri avansert 2-4km per dag fra øst mot vest. Heldigvis! Det må i så fall være i kvadratkilometer kontroll i alle retninger? For de står vel fortsatt drøyt 9km unna Pokrovsk by. Akkurat som de gjorde i forrige uke. Og uken før det. De har avansert sakte men sikkert etter at de tok Avdiivka den 17' februar. Nå pøser de på med tropper, men det ser ut til å stå ganske stille foreløpig... gudskjelov.

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