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[Nimrad]

 

 

Apple hadde monopol på Thunderbolt gjennom en avtale med Intel, uten den så hadde alle hatt Thunderbolt nå

Det stemmer vel ikke? Thunderbolt var vel åpen for alle å bruke men for dyr/for lite utbredt til at noen andre brukte den i sine maskiner.

 

Thunderbolt is the brand name of a 

hardware interface developed by Intel (and collaboration of Apple)

 

Ja, og? Det er jo ganske så irrelevant og sier ingenting om at Apple hadde monopol på Thunderbolt gjennom en avtale. Kjapt søk viser for øvrig at det er feil. Blant annet Sony har brukt Thunderbolt (1) i sine maskiner: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/88370-sony-vaio-z-thunderbolt-price-macs-look-cheap

 

Så, med andre ord, posten til Dubious er løgn.

Endret 4. oktober 2017 av Nimrad

[Dubious]

Artikkel fra 2012

For almost a year, Mac users have been enjoying the Thunderbolt, which was developed by Intel, because of collaboration from Apple.

MSI recently released the first available motherboard with Thunderbolt support, its Z77A-GD80, ending Apple’s monopoly on what could be considered the coolest interface since the original USB standard

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thunderbolt-performance-z77a-gd80,3205.html

 

Så kommer man til prisen

You know what's incredible about USB 3.0 today? It's practically free. It comes baked into chipsets from both AMD and Intel, and even when it's not native, host controllers cost just two bucks. Thunderbolt's pricing, on the other hand, is crazy expensive. At least we think so; we don't know how much the controllers-all made by Intel-even cost. Early on, one vendor told us $200, which is insane. Other board makers have since told us that T-bolt chips cost about $30. Whatever the cost, the fact is that basic boards with Thunderbolt cost about $60 more than similar boards without it. Let's not even get into the cables, which today cost $50 for a basic 2‑meter span. By a country mile, USB 3.0 wins this category, and we can't see that changing for the foreseeable future. Did we mention that Thunderbolt cables cost $50?

[nebrewfoz]

Fortsatt ingenting som viser at "Apple hadde monopol på Thunderbolt gjennom en avtale med Intel".

 

Når man på engelsk skriver "MSI recently released the first available motherboard with Thunderbolt support, its Z77A-GD80, ending Apple’s monopoly on what could be considered the coolest interface since the original USB standard", så betyr ikke det noe annet enn at Apple var den eneste PC-makeren som brukte Thunderbolt inntil MSI slapp Z77A-GD80.

 

Apple hadde ikke monopol i juridisk forstand, men pga. samarbeidet med Intel hadde de et teknisk forsprang som gjorde at de kunne komme med Thunderbolt før "konkurrentene", og i så måte hadde Apple et monopol i praksis - helt til MSI rakk å få ut Z77A-GD80.

[Nimrad]

Artikkel fra 2012

For almost a year, Mac users have been enjoying the Thunderbolt, which was developed by Intel, because of collaboration from Apple.

MSI recently released the first available motherboard with Thunderbolt support, its Z77A-GD80, ending Apple’s monopoly on what could be considered the coolest interface since the original USB standard

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thunderbolt-performance-z77a-gd80,3205.html

 

Så kommer man til prisen

You know what's incredible about USB 3.0 today? It's practically free. It comes baked into chipsets from both AMD and Intel, and even when it's not native, host controllers cost just two bucks. Thunderbolt's pricing, on the other hand, is crazy expensive. At least we think so; we don't know how much the controllers-all made by Intel-even cost. Early on, one vendor told us $200, which is insane. Other board makers have since told us that T-bolt chips cost about $30. Whatever the cost, the fact is that basic boards with Thunderbolt cost about $60 more than similar boards without it. Let's not even get into the cables, which today cost $50 for a basic 2‑meter span. By a country mile, USB 3.0 wins this category, and we can't see that changing for the foreseeable future. Did we mention that Thunderbolt cables cost $50?

Vi er alle enige om at Apple er så og si de eneste som har brukt Thunderbolt, men påstanden her var at det var pga en avtale med Intel som forhindret andre fra å bruke det og det mener jeg er løgn.

En av mine gjetninger var prisen, og det virker jo du å bekrefte.

 

Ellers litt rart å snakke om det i 2012. Artikkelen jeg linket til viste jo PC-er med thunderbolt fra Sony som ble lansert i juli 2011. Mulig de kun snakket om stasjonære maskiner?

Endret 4. oktober 2017 av Nimrad