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Hva mener du om Misjonering?

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tull og tøv , jeg vet at sarons dal bruker løgn for og overbevise muslimer til og bli kristene eller som di kaller det , tilvendig ved og ikke si all fakta på fårhånd , som det og ikke nevne jesus for dette skremmer di vekk

 

 

når jeg var på skolebesøk der fikke jeg ikke spørre mere enn ett spørsmål av læreren min , han var redd for at jeg skulle spolere skolen framtidige muligehet for flere besøk hvist jeg spurer for mange spm , jeg klarte og sette den stakkars oviseren fast og , husker ikke hva det var om , men det hadde med mirsonering og det at di ikke fortalte hele sandheten til "offerene" sine

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Om man hadde respekt for andre hadde man ikke overfalt dem for å "frelse", men heller spurt pent (reklameplakater f.eks.) om de ville komme på et møte og høre mer om guden deres.

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Min mening om misjonering er at det tar fra og/eller ødelegger andre land og folks kulturer

 

Ta fra, i motsetning til å ikke ha en kultur, er vel å ta i. Om det ødelegger er vel øyet som ser.

 

Men hva er din mening?

 

Jeg mener det er en naturlig gang, og folk flest pleier sjeldent å ha noe i mot sin egen kultur.

 

:)

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Det kommer jo helt ann på "misjoneringsformen".

 

Greit sålenge det er på frivillig basis. Å ytre meninger må alle få gjøre. Men er ikke noe tilhenger av misjonsform som innebærer tvang, eller skremselspropaganda.

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Tvang?  :dontgetit:

Ja tvang. Det har vært et kjært virkemiddel for kirken opp gjennom historien. Men de er ikke alene om akkurat det.

Mmm... noen eksempler? :whistle:

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Misjonering her på berget gjør ikke meg noe, særlig hvis de som tror på det hellige ord ikke har ordet i sin makt. Afrika derimot...

 

Much of what Western missionaries once opposed as tribal witchcraft and idol worship more tolerant churchmen now regard as the spadework of the Holy Spirit-a tilling of the soil for the planting of an authentically African church. The idea isn't new: some early fathers of the Western church saw "pagan" Greek philosophy as divine preparation for the truths of Christian revelation. In the same way, many African theologians insist that the old tribal religions are more Christian because they are less skeptical of the supernatural than the post-Enlightenment Christianity of the modern West. "Africans are much closer to the world of Jesus" than are Western Christians, argues Protestant theologian Kwame Bediako of Ghana. What is really happening in Africa today, he believes, is "the renewal of a non-Western religion."

 

Yet from the evidence of what actually goes on in local churches, something very different is taking place. When Africans read the Bible or hear it preached, they see that Jesus was a healer and an exorcist, and controlling evil spirits has always been a primary function of tribal shamans. As a result, the most powerful and pervasive form of African Christianity today is Pentecostal faith healing-imported directly from the West. Last November, for example, nearly 6 million Nigerians jammed a park in Lagos to experience the miraculous healings of Reinhard Bonnke, a Florida-based evangelist. Those are numbers even Billy Graham might envy. Every night in cities like Accra, Ghana, thousands of Africans seek out evening Pentecostal "prayer camps." Most are women who can't find husbands or wives suffering from infertility, but others come because they've found no job. The diagnosis in every case is past association with tribal witchcraft. One by one, victims are sent rolling and moaning on the floor as freelance Pentecostal preachers "deliver" them from evil spirits in the name of Jesus.

 

Even the Catholic Church-still the largest body of Christians in black Africa-now provides healing services that are indistinguishable from the Pentecostal. It's a defensive measure: "These churches are getting most of their members from us," says Archbishop John Onaiyekan of Abuja, Nigeria, the young leader of Nigeria's Catholic Church.

 

Africans also embrace Pentecostalism because-again like tribal religions-it promises material abundance in this life. The best-attended churches are supported by relatively well-off, educated Africans who do not want to lose their precarious prosperity. "In the U.S., people can get a mortgage to buy a car," says Michael Okonkwo, founder and self-appointed bishop of the Redeemed Evangelical Mission in Lagos. "But in Africa, if I want a car, I have to pray to God to give me the money to pay cash."

 

Indeed, throughout sub-Saharan Africa the Christian ministry is now regarded as the fastest career path to upward mobility. Catholic priests are better educated-and better recompensed-than other members of their families. Moreover, since anyone can claim anointing by the Holy Spirit, anyone with a charismatic personality can start a200 new churches are launched each month-many of them with literature and instructions provided by evangelical organizations in the West. "Christian missions are perhaps the biggest industry in Africa," says British scholar Paul Gifford, who is currently teaching at a new Pentecostal university in Ghana. And given the political and economic chaos of most African countries, they are often the best conduits of Western influence and financial investment.

 

Although Christianity's future may lie outside the West, Western influence is still decisive wherever the Gospel is preached. In religion, as in other international affairs, globalization means that superpowers remain dominant. For the world's poor, Christianity often appeals just because it is seen as the religion of the most successful superpower, the United States. Nonetheless, as the world's most missionary religion, Christianity has a history of renewing itself, even in the most culturally inhospitable places. That is the hope that hides behind the changing face of the church.

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Tvangskonvertering, som enkelte muslimer også driver med ;)

Islam er en ikke-misjonerende religion.

Jepp...det var det han sa... Ikke misjonerende....eller tvangskonverterende sa han vel... :hmm:

 

Altså...tro på Allah, eller dø.

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Jepp...det var det han sa... Ikke misjonerende....eller tvangskonverterende sa han vel... :hmm:

 

Altså...tro på Allah, eller dø.

Man må nødvendigvis være misjonerende for å få andre til å konvertere. Enten ved hjelp av mat eller våpen.

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Man må nødvendigvis være misjonerende for å få andre til å konvertere. Enten ved hjelp av mat eller våpen.

Nja...da legger du andre ting i ordet misjonere enn det jeg gjør, men greit. Skjønner hva du mener.

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Tvang?  :dontgetit:

Ja tvang. Det har vært et kjært virkemiddel for kirken opp gjennom historien. Men de er ikke alene om akkurat det.

Mmm... noen eksempler? :whistle:

Kristningen av Norge f.eks.?

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Jeg synes misjonering er greit så lenge misjonærene ikke farer med løgn, bedrag og skremselspropaganda. Samt at de respekterer at andre har tatt sitt valg.

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Min mening om misjonering er at det tar fra og/eller ødelegger andre land og folks kulturer

 

Men hva er din mening?

den støtter jeg.

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