warlock er imba?

[TaleX]

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Hi there.

Recently i saw an enormous amount of posts regarding warlocks, deathcoil, and how overpowered and imbalanced warlocks are.

To help you fellow players, i've decided to write a guide, being a warlock myself, so that more people can succefully defeat warlocks on their server.

This will be a comprehensive guide containing images, spoilers, tactics, and tips to defeat this imba class.

 

For the purposes of this guide, i'll assume the warlock is Soul-link specced, since it is the most imbalanced build as people say.

 

 

Preparation

You can find an SL warlock outside IF or Orgrimmar, this is the place were most SL warlocks hang out.

To initiate combat, you should approach the warlock and talk to him. He will say something about how nerfed warlock were, and how they could not kill anyone in previous patches, and how they became godlike while mages are now water dispensers. After you talk to him, click DUEL to start the fight.

 

 

PHASE ONE

 

You should position yourself as shown in this image:

 

http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warlockmod8jo.jpg

 

The warlock will begin the fight without a pet, because he will feel too overpowered to use a pet against you. MT#1 and MT#2 should position the warlock so that his back will face the tank farther away from the IF door. It is advisable for them to have at least 350 shadow resistance, and one of them should also have 250 fire resist minimum. (This is explained later). Greater Shadow Protection pots are also a good commodity, as Whipper root tubers and +50 stamina potions from the quest in Blasted Lands.

 

The melee DPS group (shown as YELLOW in the pic) should stay behind the warlock, near the tank farther away from the Gate. This is done because they will need to retreat behind the tank and bandage, from time to time. (Bandage spot is shown on the pic)

 

The rest of the raid should position as shown in the picture. It is important for the raid to have about 120-200 shadow resistance, which will help sustain the damage. Keep in mind you will need at least 2 dispellers for each debuff type, otherwise you will wipe pretty soon.

 

During Phase 1, the warlock will perform a series of attacks:

 

SHADOW BOLT: A bolt of shadow is launched every 4 seconds to the tank that has aggro, causing 1200 to 2500 shadow damage, depending on resistance. A shadow bolt will crit between 3500 and 6500 damage, again depending on the target resistance. This is were MT#2 should come into play: If a Shadowbolt crits MT#1, he will have a debuff that will increase Shadow damage by a Zillion times. This is when MT#2 should taunt the warlock to prevent MT#1 from dying. MT#1 will then do the same thing once another Shadowbolts crits MT#2.

 

 

 

Curse of Doom: Every 1 minute, the warlock will cast CoD on a random raid member. This member should move outside the raid and unload full DPS, since he will die within the minute.

 

 

 

Shadowburn: The warlock will cast Shadowburn everytime he changes target. If one of the raid members gets aggro, he will suffer shadowburn and instantly die. It is important not to OverDPS, or members will die one after another.

 

 

 

Fear: The warlock will cast Fear on a randomy raid member, every few seconds. You should provide everyone with Fear Ward if you have it, and dispel fear ASAP, especcially on MTs and Healers.

 

 

Phase 1 is relatively easy and will last until the warlock has 70% life. This can take between 3 and 5 minutes, depending on your equipment.

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From: cyborg99 | Posted: 2/5/2006 9:35:55 AM | Message Detail

PHASE TWO

 

When the warlock reaches 70% life, he will instacast a felhunter and Soul Link it. This is when the fight becomes harder.

Note: You cannot kill the warlock while the felhunter is alive. If you try to, the warlock will say that It's not his time yet and will use an healthstone, which will probably render the fight impossible in phase three.

 

A few moments before Phase two, the raid should move as shown in the pic.

 

http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warlock2mod5yb.jpg

 

Note: MT#3 and MT#4, which are tanking the felhunter, should stay at least 10 yards away from the warlock

 

Phase two is all about killing the felhunter.

The felhunter CANNOT BE DAMAGED by magic, as it has very high magic resistance. Also, during phase two, you should not magic debuff the pet or the warlock, otherwise the felhunter will remove the debuff and heal himself.

 

MT#1 & #2 should stay on the warlock with a few healers, while the melee DPS group will take down the Felhunter, while the magic

DPS group focuses on the warlock. During this phase, the warlock will receive next to no damage, as he is Soul Linked to the pet.

 

During Phase two, the warlock will have a new attack at his disposal:

 

Hellfire: Every 20 seconds, the warlock will cast Hellfire and hit anyone within 10 yards for an incredible amount of Fire damage.

 

Every DPS class standing near the warlock should retreat as shown in the picture and bandage as soon as he casts hellfire. Only the MT with Fire resistance should remain near the warlock. This is done because if the warlock finds no one within melee range during Hellfire, he will summon an Infernal and wipe the raid.

 

When the Felhunter is dead, PHASE THREE begins.

 

 

 

PHASE THREE

 

Phase three will begin as soon as the Felhunter is dead.

Notes: The warlock should be at around 40% health now. If he's any higher than that, you'll prolly not be able to take him down before you wipe. Also, if you have more than 6-7 dead members by now, you will probably wipe as you can't do enough DPS.

 

During phase three, the warlock will use all his arsenal to kill you.

 

Curse of Shadow/Elements/Agony: Every 10 seconds, the warlock will cast a random Curse on the entire raid. These debuffs should be removed as soon as possible. If CoE or CoS are not removed after 10 seconds, the warlock will cast Immolate/Shadowbolt on the member, killing him.

 

Howl of Terror: The Warlock will randomy cast HoT, hitting all the melees around him. You need to be quick and dispel Fear on the MTs otherwise they will lose aggro.

 

Death coil: The most imbalanced spell in the warlock's arsenal. This spell will be cast on a random raid member killing him, and will heal the warlock. CT_raidassist will warn you when the warlock is about to cast Deathcoil, and all Healers should hide behind the tank. If more than 3-4 healers are killed, the MTs will not be able to sustain damage and die, wiping the raid.

 

Note: In this pic ( http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warlock2mod5yb.jpg. ) an arrows point to the out-of-LOS spot for Healers. This is where you should hide when the warlock is about to deathcoil

 

 

PHASE FOUR

When the warlock is at 5% life, he does an emote saying "Imba Warlock performs one last service for Blizzard" He will then cast Curse of Doom on the entire raid. This means you need to kill him within one minute, or you will wipe. You should have at least 15-20 DPS classes still alive here, otherwise you won't be able to kill him in time.

 

If you manage to kill him within the minute, congratulations! You just killed the hardest boss currently in World of Warcraft!

[Plomma2]

Hehe. Må nok øves litt på, men vi skal nok klare det itl slutt.

[mau5trap]

shadowbolt critter ikke 6000 dmg, bare så det er sagt!!

 

heldig om vi critter over 2000

[Tåkefyrste]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9185/5k88vd.jpg

 

Kanskje ikke så relevant nå lengre da men.

Er iallefall ikke uvanlig med crits på 3500+ etter 1.9 såvidt jeg har sett.

[Plomma2]

shadowbolt critter ikke 6000 dmg, bare så det er sagt!!

 

heldig om vi critter over 2000

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Hva er du for slags warlock? Critter 3-4000 støtt og stadig.

[Bautastein]

Husk at alle cloth users må ut av syne når vi kaster 4k Melee aoe dmg hvert 2. minutt, bandage spot funker sikkert bra.

 

Edit: Til de tre seriøse posterne over meg, 3-4000 er ikke mulig uten zhc+toep og over 400 dmggear og ekstra buffs i 1.9.

Endret 5. februar 2006 av Pinglebolle

[Empire of the Sub]

Warlocks må være den mest imba classen noensinne, som krever full planlegging + buffs og en hel masse potions før krig.

Det er rett og slett umulig, ja; umulig å ta en warlock 1on1 hvis du møter han random.

 

Btw, detter kommer fra meg; en mage.

[spo9k]

Warlocks må være den mest imba classen noensinne, som krever full planlegging + buffs og en hel masse potions før krig.

Det er rett og slett umulig, ja; umulig å ta en warlock 1on1 hvis du møter han random.

 

Btw, detter kommer fra meg; en mage.

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Har locken en feelhunter ute å du er mage Så løp, du har ikke en sjanse.

er du mage mot en lock og han ikke hae feelhunter ute er sjansen for å vinne ca. 30%.

har han derimot feelhunter ute er sjansen 0%. Med andre ord locken er den mest imba classen på spillet. Undead mage lvl 30 Twisting nether

Endret 6. februar 2006 av spo9k

[Loeve]

Men alle bortsett fra warrior dreper jo mages

[PcT]

For en warrior er det umulig å drepe en warlock med succubus, den beste warlocken på Al'Akir (Fab) Har det beste geared ingame (Helt sjukt mye + damage gear) han succ. meg igår, crittet proccet shadowbolt decursen, seduce igjen, 6.2k crit (Startet begge trinketene og jeg i zerk stance) Overkill siden jeg allerede hadde fått en 2.7k crit på min 5500hp i pvp gear.. (Jeg kunne ikke bevege meg før jeg var død, imba?)

[Bautastein]

For en warrior er det umulig å drepe en warlock med succubus, den beste warlocken på Al'Akir (Fab) Har det beste geared ingame (Helt sjukt mye + damage gear) han succ. meg igår, crittet proccet shadowbolt decursen, seduce igjen, 6.2k crit (Startet begge trinketene og jeg i zerk stance) Overkill siden jeg allerede hadde fått en 2.7k crit på min 5500hp i pvp gear.. (Jeg kunne ikke bevege meg før jeg var død, imba?)

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husk at denne 6,2 k critten i 1,8< ville vært en 4k crit i 1,9. Og da har man flaks + masse damagebuffs.

[Theoneask]

Warlock er ikkje imba, dei berre har alt.

Shamans er imba. Prøv deg mot ein shaman 1 mot 1 og sjå korleis det går.

[Loeve]

Warlock er ikkje imba, dei berre har alt.

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Du føler ikke at det er en liten selvmotsigelse? I dueller og "planlagt" pvp kan det være omtrent umulig å ta warlocks til tider, men jeg pleier ikke å ha så mye problemer med de i random pvp. Virker som om de krever en del forbredelse.

[PcT]

Erm, den critten skjedde igår.. vi var faktisk 2 mot 1 (Jeg og en epic geara rogue) Han brukte rocket helm og stunnet ham, seduce på meg, drepte meg på rundt 5 sec så drepte roguen.. Uansett han har det beste gearet ingame for en wlock i guess (SotG har farmet nefarian i 5 måneder?)

[holst84]

For en warrior er det umulig å drepe en warlock med succubus, den beste warlocken på Al'Akir (Fab) Har det beste geared ingame (Helt sjukt mye + damage gear) han succ. meg igår, crittet proccet shadowbolt decursen, seduce igjen, 6.2k crit (Startet begge trinketene og jeg i zerk stance) Overkill siden jeg allerede hadde fått en 2.7k crit på min 5500hp i pvp gear.. (Jeg kunne ikke bevege meg før jeg var død, imba?)

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husk at denne 6,2 k critten i 1,8< ville vært en 4k crit i 1,9. Og da har man flaks + masse damagebuffs.

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Han skriver jo at det skjedde igår... Så det var nok i 1.9 ja...

 

EDIT: Var litt for sein der

Endret 6. februar 2006 av holst84

[OC-Freak]

Jeg har enda til gode å vinne en kamp der jeg ikke er forberedt på angrep mot warriors og rogues - samt shamans og shadow priests. Vet jeg derimot at de kommer og har succien ute - ja da taper jeg sjelden.

 

Mine SB crits er 900-1000 dmg, ikke 6k som noen snakker om her. Nei jeg har ikke ruin build. Ruin build er etter min erfaring for farlig - warrior klarer ikke holde aggro og da dør jeg fort i gruppe/raid spill.

 

Har kun episk halskjede (Fra Hakkar i ZG) - ellers kun standard Shcolo/strath/DM gjenstander. Ny server, ung guild osv - ikke noe MC/BWL/Onyxia på oss enda.

 

Så at warlock er IMBA vil jeg ikke si, det krever mye å spille warlock og for pvp må man ha rett demon ute i forhold til motstanderen (succi for melee og felhunter for mana-brukere) skal man ha suksess.

 

Nå er jeg riktignok specca for PvE og ikke PvP da. Improved imp for berde stamina buff, improved healthstones, improved liftap for å kunne holde ut lenge i kamper osv.

 

PvP warlocks ville nok hatt en helt annen måte å se ting på.

[Champ]

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Kanskje ikke så relevant nå lengre da men.

Er iallefall ikke uvanlig med crits på 3500+ etter 1.9 såvidt jeg har sett.

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Den der er jo rigget da, warrioren har jo aktivert recklesness, noe som gir +20% damage, inkludert de +10% han allerede får for å være i berserkerstance.

Så har han sikkert stått stille og ventet til warlocken har crittet så han har mottatt debuffen og warlocken har fyrt opp imbatrinketsene sine.

 

Selvfølgelig kan slikt skje ute i felten, men det er pokkern ikke ofte ;-)

[Nstin]

Erm, den critten skjedde igår.. vi var faktisk 2 mot 1 (Jeg og en epic geara rogue) Han brukte rocket helm og stunnet ham, seduce på meg, drepte meg på rundt 5 sec så drepte roguen.. Uansett han har det beste gearet ingame for en wlock i guess (SotG har farmet nefarian i 5 måneder?)

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Hva heter han? Jeg har masse chars på Al'akir.. kan sikkert ta en screen av utstyret hans hvis det er av interesse for noen?

[PcT]

Fab - 60 Gnome warlock! Hva heter charsa dine btw?

[Turboleif]

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