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Interessant artikkel : "The Israeli army intensively bombarded residential areas in Gaza when it lacked intelligence on the exact location of Hamas commanders hiding underground, and intentionally weaponized toxic byproducts of bombs to suffocate militants in their tunnels, an investigation by +972 Magazine and Local Call can reveal. The investigation, based on conversations with 15 Israeli Military Intelligence and Shin Bet officers who have been involved in tunnel-targeting operations since October 7, exposes how this strategy aimed to compensate for the army’s inability to pinpoint targets in Hamas’ subterranean tunnel network. When targeting senior commanders in the group, the Israeli military authorized the killing of “triple-digit numbers” of Palestinian civilians as “collateral damage,” and maintained close real-time coordination with U.S. officials regarding the expected casualty figures. Some of these strikes, which were the deadliest in the war and often used American bombs, are known to have killed Israeli hostages despite concerns raised ahead of time by military officers. Moreover, the lack of precise intelligence meant that in at least three major strikes, the army dropped several 2,000-pound bunker-buster bombs that killed scores of civilians — part of a strategy known as “tiling” — without succeeding in killing the intended target." https://www.972mag.com/tunnels-hamas-lethal-gas-bombs-gaza/

Hvordan skal dette tolkes? "Director General and designated IDF Chief of Staff Maj.-Gen. (res.) Eyal Zamir" : "Assistance was provided to 5,942 bereaved families and over 15,000 wounded service members." https://www.jns.org/israeli-defense-ministry-showcases-war-achievements/ Ser noen tolker det som at 5942 soldater har blitt drept. Men er skeptisk. Det virker veldig mye.

Takk for bra forslag. Men det er nok ikke slik. Jeg fant nemlig video fra "Absolutely live", og den går :"She gets....She gets... " etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6dw44jm9y0 Men det du sa om singel-versjon kan være forklaringen. At singel-versjonen var forskjellig fra album-versjonen, og gikk : "She get high. She get high" etc. Så takk for befriende tanke.

The Doors, "Break on through" I to versjoner. Versjon 1 : "She gets... She gets.... She gets....She gets high" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnzBNMfZfo Versjon 2 : "She get high. She get high. She get high. She get high" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnzBNMfZfo Jeg hadde plata en gang i tiden. Og jeg husker versjon 1. Er det noen som har plata, og kan bekrefte at jeg husker riktig?

Julia Sebutinde sto alene om å avvise Sør-Afrikas folkemordsak mot Israel ved Den internasjonale domstolen. Nå er hun domstolens nye president og den ugandiske dommeren antyder at hennes motiver for å beskytte Israel kan finnes i Det gamle testamente. https://x.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1882864843289723355

Det er komplisert. "Ukrainian Trained, Turkish Sponsored Syrian Rebels Lead Assault on Aleppo. (...) According to reports on some Islamist social media sites, the rebel groups based in the Idlib region – which is said to include members of the Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP) – had received operational training from special forces troops from the Khimik group of Ukraine’s Main Intelligence Directorate (HUR). The training team focused on tactics developed during the war in Ukraine, including on the use of drones. (..) The head of the HUR, Major General Kyrylo Budanov, said in an interview in May 2023 after reports that Ukrainian forces were operating against Russian contractors abroad: “We will keep killing Russians anywhere and everywhere until the complete victory of Ukraine.” " https://www.kyivpost.com/post/43117

"Former defense minister Moshe "Bogie" Ya’alon stirred controversy in an interview with Lucy Aharish on DemocratTV on Saturday, saying, “We are being dragged into annexation and ethnic cleansing in the Gaza Strip.” During the interview, Ya'alon elaborated: “The path we are currently being led down involves conquering, annexing, and ethnic cleansing. Look at the northern Gaza Strip—transfer, call it whatever you want—and establish Jewish settlements. That’s the reality. " https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-831374

Merkelig at dette er så vanskelig å finne en klar melding om. A.I. - siden her gir ikke noe klart svar, annet enn dette; "...women and children accounting for more than 900 of the dead." https://search.brave.com/search?q=how+many+lebanese+civilians%2C+an+how+many+Hezbollah+fightershave+been+killed+in+the+Israel%2FHezbollah+war+this+year%3F&source=llmSuggest&summary=1&conversation=f553149d94f708e27a5ce4 Kanskje kommer vi ikke nærmere.

"Reuters has cited Hezbollah and Lebanese sources to say that Hezbollah believes the number of its fighters killed by Israel over the last year of fighting could be as high as 4,000." https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hezbollah-believes-it-lost-4000-fighters-killed-far-surpassing-2006-war Vet ikke om dette må tolkes slik at tallet 3700 var ikke et tall som innbefattet Hezbollah-krigere. At det var andre.

Et israelsk nettsted har en artikkel om demotiverte israelske soldater. Kanskje noe av grunnen til at våpenhvile ble en nødvendighet for Netanyahu. "We don't understand what we're doing here": from the army to the commando brigade, from Givati to the paratroopers - more and more fighters, from all the infantry units, testify that the erosion and opacity of the IDF left them no choice but to refuse ." https://www.ha-makom.co.il/idf-droppings/

"AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordanian military planes dropped aid to northern Gaza on Tuesday for the first time in five months to help relieve the dire humanitarian situation in the enclave, the army said." https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-11-26/jordan-airdrops-aid-to-northern-gaza-for-first-time-in-five-months-official-source Artikkelen sier ikke noe om hvorfor det har vært opphold i fem måneder. Kanskje er det en del av våpenhvile-avtalen at Israel skal tillate flydropp?

HRW konkluderer at bombingen som drepte tre journalister i oktober ikke var noe uhell. "HRW: Israel Deliberately Killed Three Journalists in Lebanon With US Bomb The strike targeted a resort where over a dozen journalists were staying. Human Rights Watch said in a report on Monday that an Israeli airstrike in Lebanon that killed three journalists and injured four others was most likely a deliberate attack on civilians and a war crime that was carried out using a US-provided weapon."

Kan du fortelle meg hvem som har blitt drept på libanesisk side? Jeg vet ikke om tallet 3700 innbefatter Hezbollahkrigere som blir drept i kamper. Tar Hezbollah med seg drepte krigere inn til byen, og får dem registrert av libanesiske helsemyndigeter?

Fra artikkelen : "Ifølge helsemyndighetene har nesten 3700 mennesker i Libanon blitt drept i krigen mellom Israel og Hizbollah." De sier ikke noe om hvor mange israelere som er drept av Hezbollah. Er det fordi det er veldig mange færre?

Det ser ikke bra ut for Netanyahu. "Netanyahu brushed off concerns over Hamas ahead of Gaza war, report says. The Channel 12 investigation comes as Netanyahu faces increasing pressure to accept responsibility for the failures of 7 October 2023. The investigation found that Netanyahu received detailed intelligence in 2014 about Hamas’ plans to invade Israel but blocked any significant responses to Hamas fighters’ activities and training near the border with the Gaza Strip." https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/netanyahu-brushed-concerns-over-hamas-leading-gaza-war-report-says

En ting som slår meg er at det vil være umulig å bevise. Selv om man skulle kunne bevise at det ikke fantes noen militant i boligblokken som ble bombet, så er det helt umulig å bevise at Israel ikke trodde at det var en der. Så de har egentlig "carte blanche".

Det de gjør er allerede så galt at det å gjøre det også uten mistanke om noen militant der er bare et ørlite skritt til.

Slo meg da jeg så Dagsrevyen i går at når du kan bombe en boligblokk, og drepe femten tyve sivile for å kanskje få tatt knekken på en militant, og du rettferdiggjør dette med at det svekker Hezbollah, da er det bare et ørlite steg til å bombe slike boligblokker også uten noen militant der, fordi det svekker Hezbollah. Jo færre libanesere, jo mindre har Hezbollah å rutte med. Nord i Gaza virker det som denne taktikken er dominerende.

Er det to diskusjoner som flyter over i hverandre her? 1) Hvordan systemet faktisk er. 2) Hvordan ( man synes ) systemet burde vært.

Sør Afrika har nok fått mye større tro på ICC etter det som har skjedd nå, med arrestordre mot Netanyahu. Det samme med Brasil.

Bedre at hundretusener sulter enn at en håndfull dør? ( Selv om flere titalls dør hver dag, i bombingen. Veldig selektiv innstilling. )

Hvor har du sett dette? Finner ikke noe om det.

Noen som vet hvorfor de helt har sluttet å slippe nødhjelp fra fly over Gaza? Er det fordi Israel har satt foten ned?

Ser at jeg kunne ha droppet den. Mens resten av posten nå blir støttet opp av en fersk artikkel i Financial Times : "How gangsters took over Gaza’s aid routes. Armed thieves who raid UN trucks are acting with Israel’s tacit support, officials say. (...) They stockpile the looted goods in open-air headquarters — seemingly overlooked by Israeli surveillance drones — and resell the supplies via middlemen to destitute Palestinians at prohibitive prices (...) UN officials and Palestinian witnesses said Israel’s permissive attitude towards the gangs was part of a pattern of fuelling competing forces to undermine local authorities. (...) “[Israel] is surveilling us all the time,” he said. “If they wanted to, they could call up Yasser Abu Shabab right now and tell him: don’t you dare steal another truck, or we’ll shoot you. But they don’t, and why do you think that is?” " https://www.ft.com/content/6a039600-d4f3-4aaa-ae0f-e4ca72cf2268

Litt mer om Israels forhold til gjengene som plyndrer lastebilene med nødhjelp som kommer inn i Gaza : "Gangs looting Gaza aid operate in areas under Israeli control, aid groups say. A U.N. memo obtained by The Post concluded that gangs “may be benefiting from a passive if not active benevolence” or “protection” from Israel’s military." https://archive.ph/2024.11.18-225338/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/11/18/gaza-looting-aid-convoys-israel-famine/ “We have not seen any physical interference from Hamas anywhere in our programs, north or south,” a humanitarian official told the publication. In fact, in some cases, members of Hamas have targeted and attacked the looters; the Post found that many of the gangs are “rivals of Hamas.” Hamas fighters have reportedly levied a new effort to target pillagers this week, and reportedly killed 20 of the looters recently. Some reports have even said that Israeli forces are, in fact, arming the groups, as Gaza journalist Abubaker Abed told Drop Site recently. Abed added that the gangs are operating under the protection of Israeli drones." https://truthout.org/articles/aid-truck-looters-in-gaza-operate-under-israeli-forces-protection-reports-find/ "But Israel is doing much more than merely allowing the looting. It has been arming the gangs for months with western weapons that local resistance groups don’t use, as Muhammad Shehada of human rights group EuroMed Monitor pointed out: ... " https://skwawkbox.org/2024/11/13/israel-arming-criminal-gangs-to-attack-gaza-aid-trucks/