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Randy Fine er visst bare avskyelig. "Florida Representative Randy Fine (R) has been under heavy criticism recently regarding comments made towards the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. “Release the hostages. Until then, starve away. (This is all a lie anyway. It amazes me that the media continues to regurgitate Muslim terror propaganda.” Fine said on July 22." https://floridianpress.com/2025/08/rep-fine-responds-to-starve-away-gaza-comments/

Jeg er ikke helt med på logikken. De hadde vel ett lik. Det som de gravde ned. Men det var ikke et av likene Israel ville ha. Jeg ser ikke hvordan du kommer derfra til at de åpenbart har likene.

Det virker rart. At Hamas skulle ha så mye å tape på dette. Virker mindre rart at de faktisk ikke klarer å finne/ få fram likene og at de kunne prøve å kjøpe tid med noe slikt.

Hva er teorien her? At Hamas vet å finne de likene som Israel ønsker å få tilbake, men at ikke vil overlevere disse likene? Fordi...?

"Israel braces for 'propaganda war' as global journalists prepare to enter Gaza. Israel is preparing a coordinated media strategy ahead of global journalists’ arrival in Gaza, including IDF-escorted tours and visual evidence to show how Hamas built terror infrastructure within civilian areas and used residents as shields." https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hypj9sjrge Da må en jo nesten kunne håpe på at det ikke blir bombet parallelt med dette.

Hamas er nå positive til FN-styrker. "Hamas would accept the deployment of UN peacekeeping forces in Gaza, however is still in discussions with other Palestinian factions over disarmament, the group's Gaza chief Khalil al-Hayya said on Saturday." https://www.newarab.com/news/hamas-accepts-deployment-un-forces-gaza-chief-al-hayya-says

"No one knows what is written in the Phase II agreement between Israel, the US, and Qatar, but what is certain is that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has already claimed his first prize and already has a foothold in Gaza, as emerges from new images revealed Monday, which show engineering equipment bearing the Turkish flag inside the Gaza Strip." https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-871045 Skulle tro at dette må være et bra tegn, hvis Israel har sluppet inn tyrkiske hjelpemannskaper. ( 3 minutter ut her er det video av tyrkerne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu9F_hl30ho )

Den olympiske komite setter olympisk rekord i dobbeltmoral. "IOC recommends no international sporting events in Indonesia after country barred Israeli athletes." https://apnews.com/article/olympics-jakarta-israel-ioc-96006361e9b4b133a14341e7dc828bbb

Trump til Time Magazine : "The US president portrayed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as the biggest obstacle to an agreement, and not Hamas. “He (Netanyahu) would have just kept going,” Trump told TIME. “It could have gone on for years. It would have gone on for years. But I stopped him, and everybody came together when I stopped him.” " https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trump-will-decide-whether-marwan-barghouti-be-freed-and-will-visit-gaza-soon Trump skal også ha sagt : "US President Donald Trump said he will decide whether to push Israel to free jailed Palestinian political leader Marwan Barghouti, and that he plans to visit the Gaza Strip soon." Javel ja.

To forskjellige versjoner. ( Al Jazeera video på linken. De siterer amerikanske kilder. ) "Al Jazeera reports on the Drop Site report earlier that the Trump administration realized within hours that the Rafah explosion yesterday ( noen dager siden nå ) – which Netanyahu used to justify halting all Gaza aid and resuming airstrikes – was actually caused by an Israeli settler bulldozer running over unexploded ordnance, not a Hamas tunnel attack." https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1980151392728740058

"At least 135 mutilated bodies of Palestinians had been held at notorious Israeli jail, say Gaza officials. (...) Some of the photographs of Palestinian bodies seen by the Guardian – which cannot be published due to their graphic nature – show several of the victims blindfolded, their hands tied behind their backs. One image shows a rope fastened around a man’s neck." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/20/mutilated-bodies-palestinians-held-notorious-israeli-jail-gaza-officials

Kanskje det ikke er bryet verdt å løsne opp de bakbundne hendene, fordi det uansett er helt klart at disse folkene har ligget døde med bakbundne hender i flere måneder?

Dette ser jo ikke bra ut. ( Videolink. ) "Bodies of Palestinian Prisoners returned from Israel are disfigured beyond recognition." https://www.bitchute.com/video/mMZf7wtGVB6J/

"Christiane Amanpour apologized on air Monday after making "insensitive" and "wrong" comments about the Israeli hostages being treated better than many Gazans in the wake of their release as part of a cease-fire deal with Hamas." https://www.thewrap.com/christiane-amanpour-apologizes-israeli-hostages-gaza-cnn/

"Israeli outlet i24NEWS reports that Israel has barred an 80-person Turkish delegation with heavy equipment from entering Gaza. Israeli officials claim Hamas could “immediately” release more captives without outside help and that there’s no need for Turkish aid crews. But the Al-Qassam Brigades said yesterday that they have already handed over all the bodies they could reach — adding that recovering the remaining corpses “requires extensive efforts and special equipment.” Thousands of Palestinians are also missing, with their bodies likely trapped under the rubble of the destroyed Gaza Strip." https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1978949955474854099

"Egypt seeks 10,000-person Palestinian force in Gaza as talks on Trump plan enter second phase. Negotiations between Israel and Hamas have entered a new stage, with Egypt proposing the deployment of up to 10,000 Palestinian security personnel in Gaza as part of the second phase of President Donald Trump’s 20-point peace plan, according to The Wall Street Journal." https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-870555

Takk igjen. Håper ikke dette gir folk her inne blod på tann, om at "slik skal det gjøres".

Takk for bekreftelse. Her er en sak som virker enda mer utrolig. "Pakistan: Military Crackdown on Pro-Palestine Protests Leaves Scores Dead (Possibly Over 1,000)" https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1978556160753192969. m/ video

Aner ikke om dette er reelt. Kanskje noen her vet. "Sources in the Israeli army: Hamas seized at least 45 trucks and hundreds of Kalashnikov rifles, machine guns, ammunition, and grenades that Israel supplied to some collaborating clans in Gaza, in addition to cash funds that were transferred to them." https://x.com/AbubakerAbedW/status/1978789391389659285

Det så ut som den skulle bli det da du postet dette. Men så blir det visst ikke slik likevel. "Israel nekter å åpne grenseovergangen i Rafah Israel nekter fortsatt å åpne grenseovergangen i Rafah og slippe inn hundrevis av lastebiler med Gaza-nødhjelp som står og venter på egyptisk side. Onsdag opplyste den israelske kringkasteren Kan at grenseovergangen ville bli åpnet torsdag, men dette blir nå avvist fra offisielt israelsk hold." https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/israel-nekter-a-apne-grenseovergangen-i-rafah-1.17614489

En tweet fra Trump i Mars : "Only sick and twisted people keep bodies, and you are sick and twisted." https://x.com/POTUS/status/1897408268982464524 Nå er det altså slik at Israel har kroppene til hundrevis av døde palestinere, og skal ifølge avtalen overlevere 45 døde palestinere for hver døde israeler de får overlevert.

Dette blir vel for spesielt interesserte, men jeg satte ordvekslingen inn i Chat GPT, og ba om kommentar til logikken til "Sir" : Chat GPT: "Det du peker på er en ganske klassisk misforståelse i debattlogikk – nemlig sammenblandingen av stat/handlinger og folk/individer, og Sir sin tolkning illustrerer dette godt." ( Kan sende deg resten som PM hvis du er interessert. )

Det virker på meg som at Krig og fred skriver om "forbrytelsene som Israel har gjordt seg skyldig i", mens du tolker det som "forbrytelsene som alle israelere har gjordt seg skyldig i". Det er langt fra en bokstavelig tolkning.

Finnes det noe annet land som ville nektet disse båtene adgang? Nord Korea?

Jeg tror de ønsker å bryte ned "muren" rundt Gaza.