Valg i Storbritannia 12/12-19

[AxelRudi]

Labour har blitt sett ute etter å ha fått de første exit polls.

[Serutover]

Blythe valley veldig like tall sies det.

Endret 12. desember 2019 av Serutover

[JohnTiger]

Ja, og Blythe var et temmelig sikkert Labour sete. På EC sin liste så er det på CON 378 plass av forventede seter, så om det også ryker kan fort flertallet bli enda større om tendensen er den samme over alt (noe den jo sikkert ikke er)

[Serutover]

Jeg ser en del kommentatorer sier at nå kommer torypartiet til å endre seg for å beholde de setene de har vunnet. Mon det, en ledende toryfigur sitter nå på BBC og sier at det britiske folket har avvist "marxist"politikk.

Endret 12. desember 2019 av Serutover

[Serutover]

Omtelling i Blythe.

[JohnTiger]

Wow! Det er et sjokk. Omtelling i en krets Labour  vant med 8000 stemmer i 2017.

[AxelRudi]

Corbyn slakt:

"

Exit poll

386 Tory
191 Labour

Tory majority of 81

So fuck it, I'm gonna risk this rant... it's been brewing for a while...

Fuck off, Jeremy Corbyn, you hopeless old tatterdemalion, and take your useless fucking coterie with you.

You've wasted years, lost everything you've tried, and are the single biggest cause of the Tory win.

Should've gone 3 years ago. Go now.

People will say "I bet you want Blair". No. Blair might be the opposite of Corbyn, but he's not the only alternative to him.
The mistake Labour made is thinking a bad person being good at politics means everybody good at politics is bad.
People will say "the media is biased". Yes. But that's the environment Labour leaders always operate in.
Complaining about it is like trawler captains complaining the sea is wet. Yep. Learn to thrive in those conditions, or get off the boat.
People will say "they treated him worse than any previous leader". They did.
Cos he was shit at working the press, had a history of opinions that could be easily made to look awful, was inept on antisemitism, shifty on Brexit and cantankerous on TV.
People will say "no way is he racist". Perhaps.
But if people accused me of antisemitism, I'd be able to clearly defend myself, demonstrate my credentials, and put in place a strategy to stop accusations.
He couldn't. If he's not antisemitic, he's inept.
People will say "voters love him in person". I'm sure. But we've been in the age of broadcasting for 80 years.
What the hell use is being warm and cuddly to 600 people in a field, when you come over badly to 60 million people on TV?
People will say "he grew the party". He did. But he lost elections.

People will say "members love him". They do. But members aren't all voters.

People will say "his manifesto is great". Maybe. But the more radical your are, the better salesman you need to be. And he's crap.
People will say "you're a centrist, just join LibDems". Yes I am, vaguely, and no I won't.
 I'd happily vote for Corbyn's agenda if it was led by someone competent and appealing.

People will say "Brexit broke traditional parties". True. But Leave all voted Tory. Why didn't Remain all vote Labour?
Cos our leader is divisive, inept, shambolic, uninspiring, and too easy to besmirch as an antisemite, terrorist sympathiser, and Leave voter.
People will say "his Brexit plan made sense". Maybe.
But he had to be dragged to it over the course of 3 years, resisting every step, giving mixed messages and looking woozy and lost; by the time he had a plan, nobody trusted him.

People will say "Tories told thousands of lies". Yep. If only somebody had seen this happen before and put together a Rapid Response Unit to kill lies in seconds.
Oh yeah, Blair did that and won. Corbyn didn't and lost. Just cos Blair did it, doesn't make it bad.
People will say "the PLP mutinied against him". They did. They aren't idiots. They could see within weeks Corbyn was a disaster, cos they'd met him.
172 wanted him to go. 40 wanted him to stay. Pretty much the ratio of voters who wanted him to stay / go. MPs were right.
People will say "we had to let him try". We did let him try. For years. He lost the referendum in 2016. He lost the election in 2017. He lost the EU elections in 2019. He's lost again.
The only thing he's won was "most unpopular Leader of Opposition in history"."

[Serutover]

Dundrende seier til Labour i første resultat i det minste

Newcastle upon Tyne Central

[Serutover]

Sunderland...fikk ikke med meg hvilken av dem.

igjen dundrende seier til Labour. Men mindre flertall enn forrige gang.

[Serutover]

Blythe gikk med knapp margin til toryene.

[Serutover]

Relativt lav turnout i Blyth.

[JohnTiger]

Det var Houghton and Sunderland south.

Begge greie seter for Labour.

WOW! Blyth Valley skifter til Con...

[JohnTiger]

Blir katastrofevalg for Labour om de kan tape kretser hvor de vant med 8000 stemmer i 2017.

...og Tv2 melder at Swinson kan miste setet sitt...

[AxelRudi]

Blyth har altså stemt Labour siden 1950... Wow.

[JohnTiger]

Labour taper altså Blyth selv om Brexit faktisk tar over 7 % av stemmene.

[Serutover]

Turnout var 63% i Blyth. Nå vet jeg ikke hva det var i 2017, men det er kanskje deler av forklaringen.

[FrihetensRegn]

Beste valg for Tory siden Thatchers trede valg og dårligste valg for Labour siden depresjonen på 1930-tallet... For et brakvalg for Boris! Nå blir det endelig Brexit.

[Serutover]

FrihetensRegn skrev (1 minutt siden):

Beste valg for Tory siden Thatchers trede valg og dårligste valg for Labour siden depresjonen på 1930-tallet... For et brakvalg for Boris! Nå blir det endelig Brexit.

Kampanjen for rejoin har allerede startet. Mye avhenger av hvordan Johnson steller seg. Hvis han fortsetter å være den upålitelige latsekken han har vært til nå, spørs det  hvor fornøyde velgere han får.

[JohnTiger]

Serutover skrev (5 minutter siden):

Turnout var 63% i Blyth. Nå vet jeg ikke hva det var i 2017, men det er kanskje deler av forklaringen.

67 %

[AxelRudi]

5 minutes ago, FrihetensRegn said:

Beste valg for Tory siden Thatchers trede valg og dårligste valg for Labour siden depresjonen på 1930-tallet... For et brakvalg for Boris! Nå blir det endelig Brexit.

Nå skal vi se da, hvor lett det er å "get brexit done".... Det er ikke sikkert det er så lett som han har påstått...